steve aa
I've noticed something in my life which
is the people that are really good never
worry about things like that the people
that are really good want to work with
the best people they can find hopefully
people that are even better than them
you know I mean that's my view of things
is if if you work with people that
aren't as good as you then you know you
become a country of midgets if you work
with people that are better than you
then you really grow the greatest people
are self-managing they don't need to be
managed you if they know what if once
they know what to do they'll go figure
out how to do it and they don't need to
be managed at all what they need is a
common Vision we wanted people that were
insanely great at what they did when you
get a Core group of you know 10 great
people that it becomes self-policing as
to who they let into that group so I
consider the most important job of
someone like myself is recruiting it
seems like all the good people I really
want to hire it seems to take me a year
to hire them
and it's always been that way even at
Apple some of the best technical people
or whoever it always seemed to take me
like a year to pry them out of HP or
wherever and
took me it took me over a year to high
Mike has the award you're about a year
and a half uh
and they're all worth it uh what happens
is I usually meet somebody that is
really good I think it's very very good
and you can't get them and then you go
try to find other people and nobody
measures up you know when you meet
somebody that good just you always
compare them this one person you know
you're going to be settling for second
best if you compromise
I've always found it best not to
compromise and just keep
chipping away
so I think we're doing quite a bit
feels like we're running the company a
lot better now than we ever have
we've definitely made our share of
mistakes
um you've got to be you've got to be a
really good talent scout because no
matter how smart you are you need a team
of great people and you've got to figure
out
how to size people up fairly quickly
make decisions without knowing people
too well and hire them and you know see
how you do and refine your intuition and
be able to to help you know build an
organization that can eventually just
you know build itself because you need
great people around you
most things in life the dynamic range
between average and the best is at most
two to one right like if you go to New
York City and you get an average taxicab
driver versus the best taxi cab driver
you know you're probably going to get to
your destination with the best taxi cab
Maybe
30 percent faster you know in an
automobile what's the difference between
an average and the best maybe on a 20
percent
uh the best CD player in an average CD
player I don't know 20 so two to one is
a big big dynamic range in most of life
um
in software and it used to be the case
in Hardware too the difference between
average and the best is 50 to one maybe
a hundred to one
easy okay I've very few things in life
are like this
but what I was lucky enough to spend my
life in is like this and so
I've built
a lot of My Success off finding these
truly gifted people
and not settling for B and C players but
really going for the a players and I
found something I found that when you
get enough a players together when you
go to through the incredible work to
find you know five of these a players
they really like working with each other
because they they've never had a chance
to do that before
and they don't want to work with BNC
players and so it becomes self-policing
and they only want to hire more a
players and so you build up these
pockets of a players and it propagates
and
that's what the Mac team was like they
were all a players and
um
these were extraordinarily talented
people
so but they're also people who now say
that they don't have the energy anymore
to work for you
sure
oh I I think if you talk to a lot of
people on the Mac team they will tell
you
um it was the hardest they've ever
worked in their life
some of them will tell you it was you
know the happiest they've ever been in
their life but I think all of them will
tell you that it is certainly one of the
most intense and cherished experiences
they will ever have in their life
yeah they did so
you know it's uh
some of those things you are not
sustainable for some people what does it
mean when you tell someone their work is
it usually means their work is
sometimes it means I think your work is
and I I'm wrong
but uh
usually it means their their work is not
anywhere near good enough we have this
great quote from Bill Atkinson who says
when you say is beat someone's working
you really mean I don't quite
understand it would you please explain
it to me
no that's not usually what I meant
you know
when you get really good people
um
they know they're really good and you
don't have to Baby people's egos so much
and what really matters is the work that
and everybody knows that that's all that
matters is the work so
it
people
are being counted on to do specific
pieces of the puzzle
and the most important thing I think you
can do for somebody who's really good
and who's really being counted on is to
point out to them when
um they're not their work isn't good
enough
and to do it very clearly and to
articulate why
and to to get them back on track and you
need to do that in a way that does not
call into question your confidence and
their abilities but leaves not too much
room for interpretation that it's their
work the work that they have done for
this particular thing is not good enough
to support the goal of the team
and that's a hard thing to do
um and I've always taken a very direct
approach
so
um and I think if you talk to people
that have worked with me
um
the really good people have found it
beneficial
some people have hated it you know but
um
and I'm also one of these people that I
I don't really care about being right
you know I just care about success
so you'll find a lot of people that will
tell you that I had a very strong
opinion and they you know presented
evidence to the contrary and five
minutes later I completely changed my
mind
because I'm like that I don't mind being
wrong
and I'll admit that I'm wrong a lot it
doesn't really matter to me too much
what matters to me is that we do the
right thing